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Interesting! LOL re: Canada/hockey puck. I think I’ve heard of people using them as engine mounts in the Volvo 240. You’d think they would survive anything. In AUS the car doesn’t even come with a scissor jack! I worked for GM/Holden and we had lots or requirements for jacking points to make sure it was safe to lift and didn’t damage the car. Would be interesting to see how the original scissor jack interfaces to that flange on the body...does the full weight of the car rest on the flange, and the notch in the scissor jack is just to keep it centred on the flange, or is the scissor jack designed with a deep enough notch that the jack head rests on the horizontal part of the body inboard and outboard of the flange. Sounds like the aluminium disks may be the way to go. Could you put a piece of plywood cut to the round shape of your floor jack and use that to contact the bottom of he body flange? Really depends on whether the flange is designed to take the load, or it’s the horizontal surfaces inboard and outboard that take the load. Hmm...
Plywood will not work. That flange is too narrow and will cut it.. Not sure why they did it like that. The only exposed metal is that metal edge, everything else is covered with plastic trim. Will use car`s scissor jack and post some more pics.
 
OK, so looking at that it’s the flange that takes all the load. Any reason you can’t just use your floor jack under the flange, or are you worried that it’s going to have 2 point loads at the front and rear of the circular floor jack lifting plate?
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
OK, so looking at that it’s the flange that takes all the load. Any reason you can’t just use your floor jack under the flange, or are you worried that it’s going to have 2 point loads at the front and rear of the circular floor jack lifting plate?
That and slipping off. I have another idea now after seeing the scissor jack. By the way I put the winter tires and used the trolley jack with hockey puck and small angaled aluminum profile to even the load. It worked but it is not that I will recommend. I was too lazy to spin the scissor jack handle up and down and came out with that solution.
 
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I have to bring this old topic back. Soon we have to switch the tires.
Rubber pad
The pad above is horrible. Do not waste your money and time. Proved that our cars are very heavy nothing 'soft' will work. The pad must be aluminum or other type of metal. Nothing else. See the pictures below. It is all deformed.
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Thanks, I just bought a pair.
These cars are heavy.
This is the one I use and it does not deform.

A little pricier, but it will last and take the weight.


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Just wondering if anyone had success with these?
 
Just wondering if anyone had success with these?
I haven't tried mine yet. The puck's slot is too deep to allow the car to be lifted from the pinch weld. I was thinking of examining the situation further and maybe sawing a little off the top of the puck to make the slot shallower. I spoke with a custom alignment shop when I had to replace one rear tire; they said they usually lift cars by their suspension, but if necessary they just remove the plastic trim pieces surrounding the factory lift points. I looked under my car and one trim piece comes off with just a few trim screws. Not sure about the other plastic trim piece.
 
I haven't tried mine yet. The puck's slot is too deep to allow the car to be lifted from the pinch weld. I was thinking of examining the situation further and maybe sawing a little off the top of the puck to make the slot shallower. I spoke with a custom alignment shop when I had to replace one rear tire; they said they usually lift cars by their suspension, but if necessary they just remove the plastic trim pieces surrounding the factory lift points. I looked under my car and one trim piece comes off with just a few trim screws. Not sure about the other plastic trim piece.
Thanks. Just getting to the point here about changing out the winter tires (got the car over the winter so the summer ones have yet to be on the car) and looking at how to do that.

Has anyone has had any success using anything other than the car jack?
 
I haven't tried mine yet. The puck's slot is too deep to allow the car to be lifted from the pinch weld. I was thinking of examining the situation further and maybe sawing a little off the top of the puck to make the slot shallower. I spoke with a custom alignment shop when I had to replace one rear tire; they said they usually lift cars by their suspension, but if necessary they just remove the plastic trim pieces surrounding the factory lift points. I looked under my car and one trim piece comes off with just a few trim screws. Not sure about the other plastic trim piece.
The car should not be supported by the pinch weld. The weld should fit entirely in the slot with no contact.

The side of the pucks support the weight of the car.

The deep slot is better.
 
The car should not be supported by the pinch weld. The weld should fit entirely in the slot with no contact.

The side of the pucks support the weight of the car.

The deep slot is better.
I thought so too, but when I held one of the pucks against the car, it was pressing on the unsupported plastic trim pieces, not on anything metal. Maybe they'd work well with the trim removed?
 
Did any of you see this thread below:


On the 1 Nov 2021 post they say the yellow one is one you could use a "floor jack" for while the red pinch weld is for the scissors jack that is in the car.

Has anyone tried this?

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Did any of you see this thread below:


On the 1 Nov 2021 post they say the yellow one is one you could use a "floor jack" for while the red pinch weld is for the scissors jack that is in the car.

Has anyone tried this?

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Looking at the pictures in the URL you mentioned you will first notice this is from the XC40 forum and the full pic of the bottom of the car with mufflers is obviously an ICE vehicle and different then the pic in our manual. I believe our P8 manual only shows the pinch weld positions.
 
Did any of you see this thread below:


On the 1 Nov 2021 post they say the yellow one is one you could use

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Looking at the pictures in the URL you mentioned you will first notice this is from the XC40 forum and the full pic of the bottom of the car with mufflers is obviously an ICE vehicle and different then the pic in our manual. I believe our P8 manual only shows the pinch weld positions.
Makes sense now. Thanks for picking that out and now I know why I couldn't find those points.
 
I thought so too, but when I held one of the pucks against the car, it was pressing on the unsupported plastic trim pieces, not on anything metal. Maybe they'd work well with the trim removed?
I do not recommend it. If it is the plastic piece I believe you are referring to, I made the mistake of removing it. The prongs that keep it secure in the large holes do not spring back and they lose security, so when the piece goes back in place it flops down below where it should.
 
I thought so too, but when I held one of the pucks against the car, it was pressing on the unsupported plastic trim pieces, not on anything metal. Maybe they'd work well with the trim removed?
There appears to be some confusion on this piece of plastic and the jack points.

The plastic is very thin and actually compresses/deforms when jacking the car up. It does not need to be removed.

Here is a picture using the jack puck with the deep slot at the jack point. You can see the pinch weld fits in the deep slot. The puck compresses a little bit and fits perfectly onto the body support with the plastic trim left intact.

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There appears to be some confusion on this piece of plastic and the jack points.

The plastic is very thin and actually compresses/deforms when jacking the car up. It does not need to be removed.

Here is a picture using the jack puck with the deep slot at the jack point. You can see the pinch weld fits in the deep slot. The puck compresses a little bit and fits perfectly onto the body support with the plastic trim left intact.

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So you did use the puck with the jack? Was the plastic ok afterwards?
 
So you did use the puck with the jack? Was the plastic ok afterwards?
The gray puck is sitting in the hydraulic jack support.

After jacking up the car, the undersurface is without any issues.

The plastic cover only deforms about 1/4 inch. It then hits the sturdy body support.

No cracks or deformation of any part.
 
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