[He Keith]

As aggressive as OPD is I would expect very little brake to be used, but only Volvo knows for sure.

 

[Welland canada recharge]

My experience was that the pads are lightly engaged during any braking. If we need to do a hard brake to clean the pads/rotors then their engineers should be fired. I never use OPD becasue the wife hates it so my brakes are engaged all the time.

OPD is profile specific - so if your wife does not like it when on her profile make sure it is turned off - on your profile if you like it turn it on and you both will be happy.

 

[He Keith]

Darn, did not know.

 

[Welland canada recharge]

Darn, did not know.

Yup - there are a number of things that are profile specific - need to test them out to see which ones - for example there are two items on the main screen regarding vehicle signal when locking - ie. Chirp at lock and/or light flash at lock - both or none or one or the other - profile specific - so if you just want the light flash and your wife wants the light flash and chirp it can be done on each individual profile.

 

[He Keith]

May need to look at that at some point, of course if I can have my car in my possession long enough or if they don't wind up buying it back. 😁😂🤣😡🤬😭😢

 

[takerhandy]

I use OPD and wife doesn't, all set up in profiles and keys and it works great.
OPD and non-OPD should both use the same amount of 'motor braking' (regen), before resorting to actually activating the brakes. Just distributed differently.

 

[SeattleCat]

I was thinking about this cleaning of brakes (as I was doing it again as it has been raining and the brakes were catching a little) which I have suggested so many times … what happens in the winter in snowy places?

It is possible that roads are bad enough that you cannot get the brakes to deploy. Regenerative breaking is greater than the traction on the road (have driven in conditions like this in Massachusetts). What happens then?

Do I have to put the car away wet.

Even worse there is salt on the roads which increases corrosion.

Another question is on ice does regenerative break abs?

 

[He Keith]

I will be curious to see how the brakes do over the winter in northern climates. I am not sure hoe many people will take wet brakes then park the car for a few days to see if they have the seizing brakes. I assume few people will have my scenario, take a car that has been sitting, back it out, wash it and put it away for a few days. I did order ceramic pads, but not letting them install them at this time. Lemon law attorney does not want me to muddy the waters with me supplying my brakes for them to use. I did tell Volvo if they supplied (in writing) that if they would honor my pads as warranty work and not exempt it form a future lemon law claim I would be open to supplying the pads, as expected they have not responded, nor do I expect them to.

 

[SeattleCat]

In the winter washing the car removes the salt which makes taking it for a drive counter productive …

Yeah the winter will be interesting. Let us know how the ceramics go.

 

[He Keith]

Been talking to dealer about my brakes and IHU. First I will say this, Volvo customer service here in Atlanta is great. My dealer, and everyone I am interacting with at the service department is tripping over themselves apologizing. I have told them, not their fault the car has some bugs. I was told the area Volvo rep will swap the car out if I want. I told them I want the car, we need Volvo to recognize they have a design issue. Dealer is setting up the brakes, pulling it in the shop bay and will leave it until Monday to see what happens. They has done it for me every time, so hopefully that wakes up Volvo.
Volvo tech support is clearly pushing back questioning what I am doing. What chemical I am using and I told them yesterday I got home, sprayed some water on them, pulled it in garage and this morning they seized. No chemical, soap or anything else just a little water.

 

[SeattleCat]

You don’t want a new car?
Would it not be interesting to see if a new one has the same problems for you. Plus then Volvo could diseconomies the one you have.

 

[VTBUCKEYE]

Been talking to dealer about my brakes and IHU. First I will say this, Volvo customer service here in Atlanta is great. My dealer, and everyone I am interacting with at the service department is tripping over themselves apologizing. I have told them, not their fault the car has some bugs. I was told the area Volvo rep will swap the car out if I want. I told them I want the car, we need Volvo to recognize they have a design issue. Dealer is setting up the brakes, pulling it in the shop bay and will leave it until Monday to see what happens. They has done it for me every time, so hopefully that wakes up Volvo.
Volvo tech support is clearly pushing back questioning what I am doing. What chemical I am using and I told them yesterday I got home, sprayed some water on them, pulled it in garage and this morning they seized. No chemical, soap or anything else just a little water.

Do you have some super special water? If this was also happening on your T5, then maybe, but only the P8 is just weird. Good luck. I'm sure they will take care of you, but it's a bummer for you to have to go through this. I wonder if you washed a loaner P8 if the brakes would seize.

 

[He Keith]

You don’t want a new car?
Would it not be interesting to see if a new one has the same problems for you. Plus then Volvo could diseconomies the one you have.

I spent $1300 in ceramic coating, and $300 in tint. Not eager to do that again. I can’t see how Volvo changed the brakes as I have had them replaced 3 times. Also since my only 2 issues are brakes and IHU I don’t want to get stuck with HVAC or something else.

 

[SeattleCat]

Perhaps they would pay for the 3000.

 

[He Keith]

Do you have some super special water? If this was also happening on your T5, then maybe, but only the P8 is just weird. Good luck. I'm sure they will take care of you, but it's a bummer for you to have to go through this. I wonder if you washed a loaner P8 if the brakes would seize.

It does not happen on the T5 because the parking brake is never engaged. On the P8 when you push park the rear calipers engage the pads to the rotor. And I am betting it is the right rear side only as that is the side that clunks every time. I bet if I enabled the parking brake on her T5 same thing would happen. One thing I I am sampling all their cars. First loaner, boner S60, then XC60 and now I have a S90. The dealer lot was bare, a dozen cars on the lot. What they told me is Volvo is holding cars at port and shipping to dealer as needed.

 

[He Keith]

Perhaps they would pay for the 3000.

I want to let this play out another week or so. At that point I am in the drivers seat as car will qualify for lemon law. Dealer and I are trying to prove to Volvo they have a pad design issue. Then I am hoping we can get Volvo to endorse using the pads I have coming tomorrow to prove it. Dealer and I agree that if we put my pads on Volvo will walk away from further brake issues.

 

[SeattleCat]

Does lemon law still count if they offered you another car and you said no?

 

[XC90_Dinosaur]

What they told me is Volvo is holding cars at port and shipping to dealer as needed.
That is what is happening to me now. Still waiting for my XC40.

Seems you are lucky to have a nice dealership. Keep us posted what's next.

 

[He Keith]

Does lemon law still count if they offered you another car and you said no?

They have not officially offered anything yet. Also lemon law does not force me to do anything other than to bring them the car to repair it and when the threshold is met it is my choice if I want a replacement or for them to buy it back. They get 3 attempts for same repair then a 4th final attempt or total of 30 days out of service regardless of attempts. Monday is day 27.

 

[SeattleCat]

I had forgotten you had ceramic added to your cars the start of this journey. Seems like a lot time ago.