True but any improvement is an improvement plus if places make money other companies and places will hopefully do it

 

If this comes our way......I'm in trouble. Another reason for my wife to go to Starbucks! If they do Target as well, then I'm SOL She'll say she needs to go to Target to "charge" when the car is sitting charged in the garage.😫

 

My husband might ban me from Target all together if they add charging

 

The only thing I disagree with is continuing to call anything under 150kW "fast charging".

A 50kW DC "Fast Charger" will take over an hour to fill our XC40's from 10-80%. No one would define this as fast.

 

I wonder if Starbucks is subsidizing as well......... I would DEFINITELY stop for Coffee especially during road-trips.
Not any differently than here, I notice that majority of the EA supercharges across cities are at Walmart Centers -- smart.
But if Starbucks has them, I'd definitely go for Coffee !

 

We went to sooooo many Walmarts on our road trip …. And they always stick them in the corner of the parking lot like they embarrassed we are there.

Alas charging stations do tend to get used as toilets a lot ….

 

The latest on this!

The full list of communities that will have EV chargers at Starbucks store locations along the route includes:

• Seattle, WA
• Issaquah, WA
• Yakima, WA
• Hermiston, OR
• La Grande, OR
• Nampa, ID
• Twin Falls, ID
• Uintah, ID
• Sandy, UT
• Provo, UT
• Grand Junction, CO
• Glenwood Springs, CO
• Silverthorne, CO
• Idaho Springs, CO
• Broomfield, CO

While drivers of any EV equipped with a standard CCS1 or CHAdeMO receptacle will be able to use these stations for a fee, drivers of Volvo Cars will receive the added benefit of having access to these stations at no charge or at preferential rates.

 

The latest on this!

The full list of communities that will have EV chargers at Starbucks store locations along the route includes:

• Seattle, WA
• Issaquah, WA
• Yakima, WA
• Hermiston, OR
• La Grande, OR
• Nampa, ID
• Twin Falls, ID
• Uintah, ID
• Sandy, UT
• Provo, UT
• Grand Junction, CO
• Glenwood Springs, CO
• Silverthorne, CO
• Idaho Springs, CO
• Broomfield, CO

While drivers of any EV equipped with a standard CCS1 or CHAdeMO receptacle will be able to use these stations for a fee, drivers of Volvo Cars will receive the added benefit of having access to these stations at no charge or at preferential rates.

https://www.media.volvocars.com/us/en-us/media/pressreleases/303304/volvo-cars-and-starbucks-finalize-locations-and-begin-installing-chargepoint-electric-vehicle-charge

 

The sooner these 60 chargers go online, the better. I'll even buy stuff at Starbies if I can pull up to charger in the lot. Notice the plans bypass cities where, in theory, a CP fast charger already exists.
For those of you thinking about taking this Denver-to-Seattle roadtrip (which is a beautiful drive!), be aware that "Uintah, ID" is actually in the state of Utah, south of Ogden, north of Salt Lake City.
You could also take your chances making 195 miles from Provo to Moab where you can park and then catch the Rocky Mountaineer luxury train for a four- to six-day roundtrip to Denver.

 

The Idaho Springs CO Starbucks is right in my hood! Nice.

 

UPDATED as of 2023.07.05: Starbucks stores located in Hermiston and LaGrande, Oregon, have recently put their new Volvo-branded ChargePoint units online! Happened back in April and May this year. The first units went up in Provo, Utah, shortly after the original announcement in August, 2022. (I'm going to drive over to La Grande just so I can get a photo of my C40 with the branded charging pole.)

https://www.hermistonherald.com/hermiston-starbucks-ready-to-deliver-new-bolt-of-juice/article_b707cd2c-ddf2-11ed-b076-a306e29b005a.html

Find an EV Charger at Starbucks stores from Seattle to Denver

As part of our commitment to a sustainable future, Starbucks is working with Volvo Cars to install EV charging stations at Starbucks stores.

stories.starbucks.com

Uintah, Utah has announced their Volvo station is coming but has not updated the status since March:

Starbucks, Volvo team to install new EV charging station in Uintah area

UINTAH — With growing calls among some for increased use of electric cars, a pair of corporate giants have teamed to install a charging station in Weber County, aiming to make it easier for electric cars traveling the Denver-Seattle corridor. It’s one of scores of charging stations sprouting...

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Curiously, ChargePoint, Starbucks, and Volvo have not issued their own press releases or made a PR splash about any of these new chargers.

Here's the original list of proposed locations on this major western highway corridor linking Salt Lake City, Denver, Boise, and Seattle (online ChargePoint/Volvo/Starbucks units in bold=five locations, 20 poles).

• Seattle, Wash. (unknown status)
• Issaquah, Wash. (no progress)
• Yakima, Wash. (no progress)
• Hermiston, Ore. (listed as online)
• La Grande, Ore. (listed as online)
• Nampa, Idaho (no progress)
• Twin Falls, Idaho (listed as online)
• Unitah, Utah (status unkown)
• Sandy, Utah (status unknown)
• Provo, Utah (listed as online)
• Grand Junction, Colo. (coming soon)
• Glenwood Springs, Colo. (listed as online)
• Silverthorne, Colo. (no progress)
• Idaho Springs, Colo. (no progress)
• Broomfield, Colo. (no progress)

 

UPDATED as of 2023.07.05: Starbucks stores located in Hermiston and LaGrande, Oregon, have recently put their new Volvo-branded ChargePoint units online! Happened back in April and May this year. The first units went up in Provo, Utah, shortly after the original announcement in August, 2022. (I'm going to drive over to La Grande just so I can get a photo of my C40 with the branded charging pole.)

https://www.hermistonherald.com/hermiston-starbucks-ready-to-deliver-new-bolt-of-juice/article_b707cd2c-ddf2-11ed-b076-a306e29b005a.html

Find an EV Charger at Starbucks stores from Seattle to Denver

As part of our commitment to a sustainable future, Starbucks is working with Volvo Cars to install EV charging stations at Starbucks stores.

stories.starbucks.com

Uintah, Utah has announced their Volvo station is coming but has not updated the status since March:

Starbucks, Volvo team to install new EV charging station in Uintah area

UINTAH — With growing calls among some for increased use of electric cars, a pair of corporate giants have teamed to install a charging station in Weber County, aiming to make it easier for electric cars traveling the Denver-Seattle corridor. It’s one of scores of charging stations sprouting...

www.standard.net

Curiously, ChargePoint, Starbucks, and Volvo have not issued their own press releases or made a PR splash about any of these new chargers.

Here's the original list of proposed locations on this major western highway corridor linking Salt Lake City, Denver, Boise, and Seattle (online ChargePoint/Volvo/Starbucks units in bold=five locations, 20 poles).

• Seattle, Wash. (unknown status)
• Issaquah, Wash. (no progress)
• Yakima, Wash. (no progress)
• Hermiston, Ore. (listed as online)
• La Grande, Ore. (listed as online)
• Nampa, Idaho (no progress)
• Twin Falls, Idaho (listed as online)
• Unitah, Utah (status unkown)
• Sandy, Utah (status unknown)
• Provo, Utah (listed as online)
• Grand Junction, Colo. (coming soon)
• Glenwood Springs, Colo. (listed as online)
• Silverthorne, Colo. (no progress)
• Idaho Springs, Colo. (no progress)
• Broomfield, Colo. (no progress)

Progress for sure. Been wondering what the latest status of this project was. Thanks @bogiesan!

 

Friend of ine sent photos of the Volvo/Starbucks charging station in La Grande OR. Like the photos I've seen of the other four online stations, the charging area is not covered but presumably it is well lit by the Starbies' parking lot illumination. There are no walls either so nothing to protect visitors and customers from the raging winds we can get around here.

 

I do like the addition of new chargers, I stopped at both the Provo, UT one and the La Grande, OR one this weekend. The rates seem to be fixed no matter who is charging at 0.48/kwh and 0.45/kwh respectively. What happened to “drivers of Volvo Cars will receive the added benefit of having access to these stations at no charge or at preferential rates.”?
In La Grande I just ducked over to the EA as the rate is cheaper and the charger is faster.

 

That .48c and .45c/kWh pricing rate sure is expensive. Why is Volvo not putting us on a 1-2 year free plan especially for these newly constructed Volvo branded chargers or was it ChargePoint that made the decision on the pricing? I know the pricing model is very state and zip code dependent, so the west coast chargers are expensive than most of the country?

My last charging session metrics on July 4th:


Thank you for charging with Electrify America.

07/04/2023 3:41:50 PM
Walmart 335 - Jackson, TN
2196 Emporium Drive
Jackson, Tennessee 38305
Charger: #100238-01
Session ID: 15634351

Total paid: $4.68

Plan: Volvo DC Fast Charging Plan
Charging pricing: $0.29/min (pre-tax)
Idling: $0.00 ($0.00/min)
Sales tax (9.75%): $0.42
Discount: $0.00

End state of charge: 79%
Total energy delivered: 17.4530 kWh
Energy Billed: 17.0000 kWh
Power Type: DC
Max charging speed: 81.00 kW
Charge Start Time: 3:26:50 PM
Charge Stop Time: 3:41:50 PM
Charging time: 00:14:42
Grace period: 00:00 min
Idle Start Time: 00:00:00
Idle Stop Time: 00:00:00
Paid idle time: 00:00

 

Over on the FB, a contributor has psted photos of the new Starbucks/Volvo/ChargePoint installation in Broomfield, Colorado That makes six out of fifteen. Again, surious that no press releases have been issued by any the three companies. This newest station apparently is not listed as online and the photo implies it has not been commissioned yet.

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• Seattle, Wash. (unknown status)
• Issaquah, Wash. (no progress)
• Yakima, Wash. (no progress)
• Hermiston, Ore. (listed as online)
• La Grande, Ore. (listed as online)
• Nampa, Idaho (no progress)
• Twin Falls, Idaho (listed as online)
• Unitah, Utah (status unkown)
• Sandy, Utah (status unknown)
• Provo, Utah (listed as online)
• Grand Junction, Colo. (coming soon)
• Glenwood Springs, Colo. (listed as online)
• Silverthorne, Colo. (no progress)
• Idaho Springs, Colo. (no progress)
• Broomfield, Colo. (completed but not commissioned)

 

Over on the FB, a contributor has psted photos of the new Starbucks/Volvo/ChargePoint installation in Broomfield, Colorado That makes six out of fifteen. Again, surious that no press releases have been issued by any the three companies. This newest station apparently is not listed as online and the photo implies it has not been commissioned yet.

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• Seattle, Wash. (unknown status)
• Issaquah, Wash. (no progress)
• Yakima, Wash. (no progress)
• Hermiston, Ore. (listed as online)
• La Grande, Ore. (listed as online)
• Nampa, Idaho (no progress)
• Twin Falls, Idaho (listed as online)
• Unitah, Utah (status unkown)
• Sandy, Utah (status unknown)
• Provo, Utah (listed as online)
• Grand Junction, Colo. (coming soon)
• Glenwood Springs, Colo. (listed as online)
• Silverthorne, Colo. (no progress)
• Idaho Springs, Colo. (no progress)
• Broomfield, Colo. (completed but not commissioned)

At some point, when this network is commissioned I would love to make this a C40 road trip and see gorgeous Utah, Colorado, Idaho and Washington along the way!🙂

 

Bumping this thread to see if BigVik has heard back from Volvo or if we have additional information about any of the remaining nine sites on the list.

 

Meant to send this over @bogiesan got tied up with the regular work life of me…punted this update over to ChargePoint. How convenient of Volvo? 😅. Isn’t this a partnership? I have a feeling if I write to ChargePoint they’ll punt me to Starbucks and they’ll punt me back to Volvo…‘nuff said.

Update from Volvo customer support as of 8/3/2023.

 

Well, she's completely worthless. I got this today (with permission to publish publicly):

David: At this time we have 8 confirmed chargers online at the starbucks locations and the remaining 7 are planned to be completed and available by the end of this year. The ones that are open are as follows:

1. Glenwood Springs Colorado
2. Provo Utah
3. Sandy Utah
4. Uintah Utah [easily misspelled]
5. Twin Falls Idaho
6. La Grande Oregon
7. Hermiston Oregon
8. Seattle Washington
   Med vänliga hälsningar!
   Yours Sincerely,
   Joseph
   Volvo Specialist | Customer Care

This is a bit confusing because we have confirmation from a FB post that Broomfiled CO is also online, so that's nine out of the planned fifteen. I did not think to ask about how Volvo cars would be billed. The original press release implied Volvo EVs would charge for free at these Volvo-branded poles.

 

With new information from Volvo's media relations, here's the current list showing nine out of the total of fifteen STarbucks charging stations online and assurances that the corridor's resources should be completed, on schedule, by the end of 2023:

• Seattle, Wash. (online)
• Issaquah, Wash. (no progress)
• Yakima, Wash. (no progress)
• Hermiston, Ore. (online)
• La Grande, Ore. (online)
• Nampa, Idaho (no progress)
• Twin Falls, Idaho (online)
• Uintah, Utah (online)
• Sandy, Utah (online)
• Provo, Utah (online)
• Grand Junction, Colo. (coming soon)
• Glenwood Springs, Colo. (online)
• Silverthorne, Colo. (no progress)
• Idaho Springs, Colo. (no progress)
• Broomfield, Colo. (completed but not yet commissioned)

If you are keeping score at home, these Volvo-branded ChargePoint units are 62kW poles. There are supposed to be four at each Starbies on the list. I do not know if they are double-cable nor do I know how power shareing is being handled. These fifteen stores are 100-200 miles apart along a part of the I-84 freeway corridor that starts in Denver CO, goes through Salt Lake City UT, Boise ID, and Yakima WA before ending in Seattle WA. While I could enjoy stopping at Starbies, especially if the charging was free, the difference between sucking up the kW at 150kW and 62kW could be ten hours ad I'd need 15-20 charging stops in the C40. However, all the routing and charging information I'm getting back form Maps, PlugShare, EA, and ABRP is weirdly conflicting. And none of the apps have these new Volvo poles in their inventories.

 

Appreciate the updates @bogiesan! Goes to show how badly coordinated this effort really is. 62KWpoles ain’t going to make much of a difference, except that we have to wait longer to charge. It would be nice to see if C/XC40 owners in these states (Utah, Idaho, Colorado, Washington) could test out some of these Volvo branded chargers.

Often 150 poles on my area end up maxing in the 60s even at ideal socs. Been well over a year since I have gotten 140s locally.

As the soc becomes less ideal (as the car charges) the difference between a 150 and a 62 decreases and ultimately becomes zero.

I will have to find the seattle poles see how well they work.

 

... and furthermore, none of the three companies is making any noise about these new chargers at all. For instance, if I search for "Starbucks/Volvo in Twin Falls ID" I get a radio station blurb from March 2022. The website dedicated to the Bridgeview Starbies in Twin Falls does not list EV charging as an amenity at their store. I don't get it. I'd be milking this thing at every opportuity but they seem to be waiting till the corridor is completely built out

Starbies, Twin Falls ID (charger or not?)
Local paper: Starbies chargers

 

... and furthermore, none of the three companies are making any noise about these new chargers at all. For instance, if I search for "Starbucks/Volvo in Twin Falls ID" I get a radio station blurb from March 2022. The website dedicated to the Bridgeview Starbies in Twin Falls does not list EV charging as an amenity at their store. I don't get it. I'd be milking this thing at every opportuity but they seem to be waiting till the corridor is completely built out

Starbies, Twin Falls ID (charger or not?)
Local paper: Starbies chargers

Appreciate the updates @bogiesan! Goes to show how badly coordinated this effort really is. 62KWpoles ain’t going to make much of a difference, except that we have to wait longer to charge. It would be nice to see if C/XC40 owners in these states (Utah, Idaho, Colorado, Washington) could test out some of these Volvo branded chargers.

 

Sooo I tried looking up the Starbucks charging station in seattle and have so far failed to find it.

Most places list it as seattle … there are a lot of starbies in seattle.

Could someone link a resource that allows one to find them / tell me where it is.

Thanks.

 

Sooo I tried looking up the Starbucks charging station in seattle and have so far failed to find it.

Most places list it as seattle … there are a lot of starbies in seattle.

Could someone link a resource that allows one to find them / tell me where it is.

Thanks.

I just wrote to Volvo media relations (Russell Datz) to see if they’ll/he will clue us in.

https://www.media.volvocars.com/us/en-us/media/pressreleases/303304/volvo-cars-and-starbucks-finalize-locations-and-begin-installing-chargepoint-electric-vehicle-charge

 

Speculation on my part, I believe the three companies will have some massive PR event/announcement but not until the corridor is completely built out, tested, vetted. ChargePoint is looking to sell lots of corporate and truck stop-style charger. Starbucks wants you to buy coffee and pastries while you suck som kW. And Volvoe wants credit for the vision. There's a downside for us in the West being the launching pad for this ex[erimental network/corridor. We get older style and smaller poles while the second generation corridor benefits from all the screwups. I need to point out that siting 4x150+kW poles is far more complicated and expensive than siting 4x62.5kW poles. Order of magnitude more money and way more permitting and zoning stuff. The 62.5kW poles might be able to tap directly into the stores' existing commercial utility service while the larger charging units will require new electrical feeders and a huge transformer, assuming a nearby substation even has the capacity.

 

So they did 2 x 125 + 2 x 62 here in seattle.

it says shared power. Does this mean if 4 people are there the through put is going to be worse than one person ….

 

Well no actual report yet but I did find the station. U

Yeah, that one’s actually right in front of the Starbucks HQ building - so I guess it qualifies as “a Starbucks”. 😀

 

Public charging now available through the Volvo Cars App!

www.xc40forum.com

Didn't see this thread prior to posting the above, but the La Grande, OR station is pretty snazzy, and a welcome option to the Electrify America chargers down the street.

 

Sweet. Hopefully these are better maintained. Went to a notoriously (in my mind) bad ea in seattle which rarely has more than 1/3 working and all 3 were dead

 

If you live in the West and you're keeping score at home, seems that some of the Volvo/Starbucks/ChargePoint installations are 2x125kW + 2x62kW while others are 4x62kW (I am guessing the lower capacity poles are in smaller towns or the result of engineering or permitting limitations at the sites).

If I try to plot a trip from Denver to Seattle, using various online planners, these new chargers do not always show up. However, I'm still trying to figure out hwo these apps work so I might not be hitting the right filters so sift for them.

 

If you live in the West and you're keeping score at home, seems that some of the Volvo/Starbucks/ChargePoint installations are 2x125kW + 2x62kW while others are 4x62kW (I am guessing the lower capacity poles are in smaller towns or the result of engineering or permitting limitations at the sites).

If I try to plot a trip from Denver to Seattle, using various online planners, these new chargers do not always show up. However, I'm still trying to figure out hwo these apps work so I might not be hitting the right filters so sift for them.

Not all the Starbucks/Volvo chargers are finished and on-line yet.

 

True, but I figured the units that are commissioned should appear in the databases for the route planning apps. Butt I may not understand the apps' interfaces and filters to display Volvo/Starbies properly. For instance, there is usually a filter for ChargePoint but that does not always show Starbucks stores that are known to have active CP poles.

I try to keep the list of Starbies chargers updated whenever I hear of one being built out or commissioned. I believe nine of the fifteen that were planned are now available with Glenwood Springs CO and Broomfield CO recently coming online. Here's the list as of a few weeks ago. If anyone has news about the others still in progress, let me know.

• Seattle, Wash. (online)
• Issaquah, Wash. (no progress)
• Yakima, Wash. (no progress)
• Hermiston, Ore. (online)
• La Grande, Ore. (online)
• Nampa, Idaho (no progress)
• Twin Falls, Idaho (online)
• Uintah, Utah (online)
• Sandy, Utah (online)
• Provo, Utah (online)
• Grand Junction, Colo. (coming soon)
• Glenwood Springs, Colo. (online)
• Silverthorne, Colo. (no progress)
• Idaho Springs, Colo. (no progress)
• Broomfield, Colo. (completed but not yet commissioned)

 

2023.10.06 UPDATE with new information from VOLVO: I stumbled across an article in the Yakima WA newspaper indicating one of their Starbies stores commissioned their Volvo-branded 62kW charger bank. Nampa ID apparently is under construction or may also be online but not officially commissioned. I have not visited the store, even though it's only a 15 minute drive from my house. I'll get there soon. Volvo customer communications sent me this list indicating eleven of the fifteen stores have successfully installed their charger banks. Parties expect the entire route to be completed, commissioned, and heavily promoted by the end of 2023. I have family in Colorado Springs so Boise/Salt Lake City/Denver (and return) is a road trip I can actually look forward to driving next summer.

1. Seattle, Wash. (online)
2. Issaquah, Wash. (no progress)
3. Yakima, Wash. (online)
4. Hermiston, Ore. (online)
5. La Grande, Ore. (online)
6. Nampa, Idaho (under construction, maybe)
7. Twin Falls, Idaho (online)
8. Uintah, Utah (online)
9. Sandy, Utah (online)
10. Provo, Utah (online)
11. Grand Junction, Colo. (online)
12. Glenwood Springs, Colo. (online)
13. Silverthorne, Colo. (no progress)
14. Idaho Springs, Colo. (no progress)
15. Broomfield, Colo. (online)

 

2023.10.06 UPDATE with new information from VOLVO: I stumbled across an article in the Yakima WA newspaper indicating one of their Starbies stores commissioned their Volvo-branded 62kW charger bank. Nampa ID apparently is under construction or may also be online but not officially commissioned. I have not visited the store, even though it's only a 15 minute drive from my house. I'll get there soon. Volvo customer communications sent me this list indicating eleven of the fifteen stores have successfully installed their charger banks. Parties expect the entire route to be completed, commissioned, and heavily promoted by the end of 2023. I have family in Colorado Springs so Boise/Salt Lake City/Denver (and return) is a road trip I can actually look forward to driving next summer.

1. Seattle, Wash. (online)
2. Issaquah, Wash. (no progress)
3. Yakima, Wash. (online)
4. Hermiston, Ore. (online)
5. La Grande, Ore. (online)
6. Nampa, Idaho (under construction, maybe)
7. Twin Falls, Idaho (online)
8. Uintah, Utah (online)
9. Sandy, Utah (online)
10. Provo, Utah (online)
11. Grand Junction, Colo. (online)
12. Glenwood Springs, Colo. (online)
13. Silverthorne, Colo. (no progress)
14. Idaho Springs, Colo. (no progress)
15. Broomfield, Colo. (online)

It would be a great opportunity if a bunch of us got together and drove from Broomfield to Seattle and test all of these Volvo Starbucks chargers after @bogiesan finishes up his online production reporting updates! 😎. Caffeinated and drunk on Starbucks while driving the nicer landscapes of CO, UT, ID, WA 🤩🔥

 

Found myself in Broomfield CO yesterday, so I swung past the Starbucks/Volvo chargers and gave them a go.

The good news:
Two chargers do exist and are fully operational. I got 65KW on a test charge.

The bad news:
It was not free. $0.45/KW with a fee if you stay after charging is complete. FWIW, I activated the session using my ChargePoint card rather than the Volvo Cars app because my app no longer shows any charging stations. (I've had a ticket open with Volvo on that for over a month with no resolution.) I made sure the Volvo Connection is active within the Chargpoint app, but it doesn't generate any special pricing at this charger. Also, the Starbucks is in a location where there aren't enough parking spots to begin with. When I visited, the lot as full and one of the two charger spaces was occupied by an ICE vehicle.

Maybe Volvo will make good on their promise of free charging for Volvo owners once the whole route in complete.

 

An ice in a charge spot! Ironically if we stay in a charge spot we get fined but if an ice does it does not as it is not logged in.

I wonder if there is a punishment scheme for ice cars in ev slots in general!

Nice to know the chargers work. Were they the spiffy looking ones I saw? Prettiest darn chargers I have ever seen!

 

No doubt the offender willl leave before she can be ticketed and you will get one for frivolous call.

 

Is the sticker thing something many states have?
I had always assumed the electrical plug sticking in my car as the sticker but since you said about it I realize that this would assume an officer / ticket person is as up on recognizing an ev as we are.

And the number of times people (especially a year or 2 ago) would start a conversation with “I that an ev” I guess a sticker might be needed.

I hate car stickers but would be willing to have one to promote and identify as having an ev

Thanks for the info.

 

Is the sticker thing something many states have?
I had always assumed the electrical plug sticking in my car as the sticker but since you said about it I realize that this would assume an officer / ticket person is as up on recognizing an ev as we are.

And the number of times people (especially a year or 2 ago) would start a conversation with “I that an ev” I guess a sticker might be needed.

I hate car stickers but would be willing to have one to promote and identify as having an ev

Thanks for the info.

Hehe... that's why I said we're 'supposed to display the sticker' - I don't and neither do most EV owners. Being jacked into the charger seems enough of an indication that I'm allowed in the charging spot. The special license plate is a better option.