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#21 ·
Irishamerican said:
That's a great price for a car of that size and technology. We paid the same for our Volvo C40 in ultimate trim and my Polestar 2 with the Performance Pilot+ Pack.
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It’s super slick! Love the “landscape” design of the center console, the lit Polestar badge, the rear design and the cutting edge tech. The biggest issue is whether Polestar will sustain its brand image due to Volvos divorce, even though Geely will continue to fund and Volvo will collaborate on design and development. From a service and maintenance perspective, if one is close to a polestar cube and that cube is assigned to service, that’s good.

However, if you are servicing your polestar at a Volvo dealership, not sure how that plays out. While I’d love to invest in a P4, the latter point I made is my biggest dealbreaker! There is a new Polestar cube that recently opened up 3 hours east of me, but that is still a hike even if they open it up for service. I am pretty **** happy with the Volvo customer service I have received for decades. So #VolvoForLife! 🔥🔥🔥 it is.

 
#22 ·
BigVikC40Dadda said:
It’s super slick! Love the “landscape” design of the center console, the lit Polestar badge, the rear design and the cutting edge tech. The biggest issue is whether Polestar will sustain its brand image due to Volvos divorce, even though Geely will continue to fund and Volvo will collaborate on design and development. From a service and maintenance perspective, if one is close to a polestar cube and that cube is assigned to service, that’s good.

However, if you are servicing your polestar at a Volvo dealership, not sure how that plays out. While I’d love to invest in a P4, the latter point I made is my biggest dealbreaker! There is a new Polestar cube that recently opened up 3 hours east of me, but that is still a hike even if they open it up for service. I am pretty **** happy with the Volvo customer service I have received for decades. So #VolvoForLife! 🔥🔥🔥 it is.

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On the website, it talks about being able to service Polestars at Volvo dealerships in Europe. In North America, who knows. My local dealer was servicing them in Victoria for Western Canada when I bought my Volvo. I note that there is a service centre in Vancouver now , but that is a $160 round-trip ferry ride just for the car.
I don’t think the financial divestment of Polestar is more than that. Polestar head office is in Gothenburg, on the same campus as Volvo, which is also where the design studio is. I realize chassis development for the 4 is a Geely SEA product, while the Polestar 3 is on the same Volvo platform as the EX90. We’ll have to wait for the EX60 to see how that plays out. In any case, I’d be surprised if battery and motor development isn’t a Geely specialty, working with CATL, Siemens and others.
 
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I talked to Polestar. You have to use their service centres in North America, not Volvo dealers. I signed off wishing them well. It’s such a pity, they’re really nice cars and it would cost me a few hundred to get a ferry to Vancouver and back, not counting hotels, tow charges and the like. Wouldn’t work for me.
 
#26 ·
DcinBC said:
I talked to Polestar. You have to use their service centres in North America, not Volvo dealers. I signed off wishing them well. It’s such a pity, they’re really nice cars and it would cost me a few hundred to get a ferry to Vancouver and back, not counting hotels, tow charges and the like. Wouldn’t work for me.
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Why is why I have been saying it all along for years that it is a massive dealbreaker for folks like us who cannot get to a Polestar cube if sheeet goes down on the Polestar. From two years of EV experience, I am absolutely not trading off on service experience. It happens to be a make or break experience and in todays environment, it’s a “must-have” close proximity until the entire EV space is mature enough to handle problems like a “real adult”. Thanks for the update @DcinBC.
 
#27 ·
BigVikC40Dadda said:
Why is why I have been saying it all along for years that it is a massive dealbreaker for folks like us who cannot get to a Polestar cube if sheeet goes down on the Polestar. From two years of EV experience, I am absolutely not trading off on service experience. It happens to be a make or break experience and in todays environment, it’s a “must-have” close proximity until the entire EV space is mature enough to handle problems like a “real adult”. Thanks for the update @DcinBC.
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They either have to get roving repairers or cut a deal with Volvo, as they have in Europe. EVs are very popular in our little city, but at less than a half million people, we only got a Tesla shop last year. Oh well, I’ll wait for a look at the EX60.
 
#28 ·
DcinBC said:
They either have to get roving repairers or cut a deal with Volvo, as they have in Europe. EVs are very popular in our little city, but at less than a half million people, we only got a Tesla shop last year. Oh well, I’ll wait for a look at the EX60.
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My goal is to keep the C40 for another decade, like my 2004 Volvo XC90 first generation which we absolutely loved (not a single accident or a major FooBar I can remember). We sold the XC90 in 2022 after 18 long years. It still looked brand spanking new and I never wanted to sell it. I was thinking of trading the C40 for a Kia EV9 SUV which really impressed me, but as it stands right now, the trade in value of my 2022 Ultimate P8 Twin Motor C40 has gotten chopped down in half, in just two years. 😌
 
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DcinBC said:
They either have to get roving repairers or cut a deal with Volvo, as they have in Europe. EVs are very popular in our little city, but at less than a half million people, we only got a Tesla shop last year. Oh well, I’ll wait for a look at the EX60.
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Are you in the city of Victoria on Vancouver Island?
 
#33 ·
DcinBC said:
Yes, we love to laugh when you get all our rain. We enjoy taking the van over to Dungeness to camp. Took the Volvo over summer before last when the camper was in hospital getting a timing chain transplant.
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I'm here on the very north coast off the Olympic Peninsula right here in Sequim and I can see Victoria very clearly across the straits from my house. I love going to Victoria, such a nice city. I do work in Port Angeles and from my office window I can see the Blackball Ferry coming and going across the straits.
 
#34 ·
Even Volvo dealerships are a bit few and far between for my liking - around 500 in the US

(Enough near me but more concerned with long trips)
 
#35 ·
RechargeHard said:
Even Volvo dealerships are a bit few and far between for my liking - around 500 in the US

(Enough near me but more concerned with long trips)
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So far I’ve been able to plan visits to mine. Nothing requiring an urgent tow, but I get your point. Once bugs have been ironed out, it’s only the odd software gremlin that resets itself overnight. Overall, my feeling is that EVs are less maintenance-prone than their ICE equivalent. Coming up on two years so far. It will be interesting to see how I feel after ten, but I’m optimistic. Consumer Reports’ reliability survey seems heavily biased against EVs by users frustrated with their cars. Few problems render an EV undriveable in the same way a broken fanbelt or EGR valve malfunction will. But the “Pull over to the side of the road” error is scary because we have no idea what’s wrong. Perhaps if we had a bit more diagnostic information, it would help, certainly more experience with the quirks will make a difference.
 
#36 ·
DcinBC said:
So far I’ve been able to plan visits to mine. Nothing requiring an urgent tow, but I get your point. Once bugs have been ironed out, it’s only the odd software gremlin that resets itself overnight. Overall, my feeling is that EVs are less maintenance-prone than their ICE equivalent. Coming up on two years so far. It will be interesting to see how I feel after ten, but I’m optimistic. Consumer Reports’ reliability survey seems heavily biased against EVs by users frustrated with their cars. Few problems render an EV undriveable in the same way a broken fanbelt or EGR valve malfunction will. But the “Pull over to the side of the road” error is scary because we have no idea what’s wrong. Perhaps if we had a bit more diagnostic information, it would help, certainly more experience with the quirks will make a difference.
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I am headed to SoFlo end of March but flying into Fort Lauderdale where there is a polestar cube. Tempted to spend sometime and go test drive one knowing fully well that I’ll never own one of them. Let’s see if my mood and time allows for a P3
Or maybe they’ll have a showroom P4 viewing. 😀
 
#37 ·
BigVikC40Dadda said:
I am headed to SoFlo end of March but flying into Fort Lauderdale where there is a polestar cube. Tempted to spend sometime and go test drive one knowing fully well that I’ll never own one of them. Let’s see if my mood and time allows for a P3
Or maybe they’ll have a showroom P4 viewing. 😀
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Pretty car. As they say, a cat can look at a king. Funnily enough, I did a build of a fully loaded EX90 the other day for a laugh. What with all of our luxury taxes -provincial and federal, the price came to a knee-wobbling $162,000 - $35K in taxes! Then today a sales rep from my dealer called to see if I was interested in trading in. Hah - saw me look! The Polestar 3 is “only” $139,000. I’m sure they will do well, but they’re way too rich for me!
 
#38 ·
DcinBC said:
Pretty car. As they say, a cat can look at a king. Funnily enough, I did a build of a fully loaded EX90 the other day for a laugh. What with all of our luxury taxes -provincial and federal, the price came to a knee-wobbling $162,000 - $35K in taxes! Then today a sales rep from my dealer called to see if I was interested in trading in. Hah - saw me look! The Polestar 3 is “only” $139,000. I’m sure they will do well, but they’re way too rich for me!
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That’s insane for a 5 row seating only (Polestar3). The EX90 claims to start at around 78-80K in the USA, but with options, taxes and all, not sure if these models (I do wish them well) will satisfy the needs and hunger of the common EV man! 100K. I priced out the KIAEV9 not too long ago, and it’s still a whopping 80K. They have four trims. Until these models find a better way of scaling up their production, and keep costs low, I don’t think these models can be self sustaining. My Volvo C40 resale value has dropped by 50%. You can get a Tesla Model 3 for less than 30K in the USA 🇺🇸.
 
#40 ·
Shares jumped up 21% today on this good news https://www.polestar-forum.com/thre...lestar-secures-usd-1-billion-external-funding-business-outlook-confirmed.13632/

Too much knee jerk reaction to last month's news. With new models coming out with the Polestar 3 and Polestar 4 this year and with the stunning Polestar 5 being released later this year, this is great news for the performance EV brand.
On a personal level, I have 13000 trouble free miles on my Polestar 2. Their OTA updates totally cured all the earlier gremlins they had in the earlier Polestar 2's. They are a fantastic EV on every level.
 
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