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xc40 purchase hesitation

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#1 ·
hello all, my wife and i were looking to replace her 2012 toyota rav4, which is an incredibly reliable and quick (v6) car with something with the latest safety systems.
safety is the prime driver. we settled on the xc40 and were going to put cash down tomorrow for overseas delivery but found some concerning videos and reviews and I'd like to get real-world feedback:
1. complaints that a/c shuts off at stoplights so car gets uncomfortably hot and no easy way around this.
2. apparently, changing seat heating and other functions requires many actions on the touch screen which distract the driver and, imo, run counter to the safety mantra.
3. much poorer mpg than epa ratings.

things that annoy me but we were willing to work around:
1. adaptive cruise only available on ultra trim so we end up with panoramic roof and higher end stereo system which we'd rather not pay for.
2. roof doesn't have hard cover underneath so it seems that would let in a lot of sunlight and heat in summer and cold in winter.

we drove one and liked the comfort and acceleration and appreciate the volvo focus on safety but would love your opinions/experience with the concerns above.
 
#3 ·
The negatives you list sound like deal breakers. Seems you’ll always resent paying for stuff you don’t like or do not want. Look at other marques. Lots of excellent cars out there. Friend if mine changed from Toyota to H9nda ten years ago. I have the Volvo BEV C40. remarkable car. I knew exactly what I wanted and got it all.
 
#5 ·
1. I have a C40 and in the BEV versions of the car, this isn't an issue, but I can't speak for the ICE versions.
2. The seat heating controls and temp controls are always visible on the touch screen. I do wish there were hard controls, but you can also use Google voice commands "Hey google, set the passenger temp to 74" or "Hey google, set the driver's side seat heater to 2" work just fine, as does "Hey google, turn off the driver's side seat heater"
3. Again, the BEV doesn't really have this problem. If anything, Volvo's estimates are super conservative on range.

For the sunroof, the C40 has a permanent moonroof but the UV filtering and glass is good enough that the car doesn't get amazingly hot, even in direct Texas sunlight. And there's always preconditioning to make the car more tolerable.
 
#8 ·
Thanks for mentioning that you can use voice to control heating and other systems. I am too old I guess, that never occurred to me.
My wife's sister has an XC60 with a hard cover below the moonroof so we assumed that was standard. When we saw this in the XC40 and asked the dealer, he said they quit doing the solid roof on the XC40. I don't know when they discontinued it or what other models are affected. But, it's good to hear that it works pretty well to keep the heat out.
 
#6 ·
I assume this is for a gas or hybrid model.
EPA ratings are not the most accurate in general. City driving can be very different depending on the city.
I know someone with a gas version and they complain about the AC shutting off. I guess it should fire up the gas engine when it needs to, but can be slow to do that.
My 21 BEV model has a sunshade. Did they remove them in the newer cars?
 
#10 ·
And, actually, we're starting to lean toward a 2026 RAV when they come out. BEVs aren't really feasible for us because we live rurally and we are off grid. The solar system I built would need to be expanded to recharge an electric vehicle. Even the PHEVs would stress our system during winter months.
Volvo has bene making gas cars forever. It's been surprising to hear these issues which seem to indicate a lack of engineering or testing. If one person complained about no A/C at stoplights, I'd assume it was a limited, personal problem. But it sounds pretty widespread and I just can't believe there's not a nice engineering solution that should have been incorporated.
 
#14 ·
Hi - I was also shopping for an XC40 in the fall of last year. Ended up getting a 2025 Mini Countryman instead. Spent a while debating both vehicles back and forth. The Mini won out in the end for a few main reasons. I'll address some of your points and add in some of mine:

The XC40 start / stop in the car we tested was really uncomfortable to get accustomed to. Pronounced knocking noise when restarting. Decreased airflow / AC with this was too much. I tried to fiddle with the shifter and pedals to make it less obtrusive, however I realized I shouldn't have to do that in a 40K car. The 2025 Mini Countryman has a start / stop disable button in the menu.

The Mini does have most all settings controlled via the central screen. The OS is super fast like iOS and the screen is OLED however.

I'm averaging 37mpg with my Mini which is more than the EPA stated. I do mostly highway driving. Steering more responsive / firmer with the Mini.

The roof cover in the Mini Countryman blocks out all light from the sunroof.

The Mini had better power delivery and the engine was much better at merging and passing than the Volvo. I believe it might have more torque?

Seats were more comfortable in the Volvo, but that's not to say that the Mini's aren't comfortable.

Headlights at night were much better with the Mini than the Volvo.

The dead pedal in the Volvo is a joke. Not sure who thought it was a good idea to have it mostly made of carpet. The one in the Mini is solid plastic and feels sturdy without fear of it getting worn to shreds over the years.

Both cars have rear power liftgates and storage was similar between the two.

The Volvo looks better than the Mini, but in the end the Mini won for practicality, power delivery, and ultimately the start / stop disable (a must of for us). Mini also just was awarded a Top IIHS Safety Pick for this model - I think the first time ever for them. Might be since it's basically a BMW X1 (made in the same factory in Germany) but at a lower price point.