[srf058]

If you have trouble reading this message, view it in a browser. ​ ​ ​ Tesla says it will open Superchargers to other automakers—which others it didn't yet say. Tesla CEO Elon Musk said in a tweet a few days ago that Tesla would open the Supercharger network to other automakers by the end of the year. He didn't specify just which automakers he had in mind—all or only some—or how the move would be implemented. Tesla uses proprietary connectors in the U.S. and a number of other regions, so at the very least other EVs would need connector adapters to use existing Supercharger stations. A more difficult part of the equation would be the software needed to talk to the Superchargers. This is where it gets tricky, because non-Tesla EV makers have their own systems to communicate with non-brand-specific charging stations. ​ ​ Tesla's move could open up about 1000 stations in the US alone to other automakers' EVs, but progress on this issue hasn't been forthcoming in past years. The good news (for owners of other EVs) is that Tesla has over 2700 stations around the globe, with some 25,000 Superchargers, so the expansion to other EVs would mean a significant gain in compatible station count. It's also worth noting that Tesla has some 1000 stations in the U.S. alone, so the move could be a lucrative source of revenue for the automaker as well. This proposal is also something that had been mentioned in past years, but had not materialized. So it will be interesting to see just how this push for compatibility will be enacted, and how inclusive it will be.

 

[Stephen Cerruti]

This actually shouldn't be as difficult as the article implies. Tesla can open itself up to other vehicles by using ISO 15118 for Plug & Charge. This is how Electrify America is implementing Plug & Charge. Since Super Chargers in Europe already sport a dual cable version with a CCS/Combo2 and Tesla is delivering cars into that market with the same port I would expect that the long term plan would be to gradually shift in that direction. That is, all new Super Chargers support CCS/Combo2 and the hardware and software for Plug & Charge.

Tesla needs to be careful here though. If they open up their network to paying customers they are going to be accused by people who have free Super Charging of not delivering on that promise when stations are busy. They are already being sued over idle fees.

Plug & Charge is a feature I am waiting for. Volvo has made commitments to advancing the standard. Consortium | eCharge4Drivers

This whole thing about Tesla opening up their network was from a single @elon tweet. There is no Tesla provided timeline or roadmap for this to happen. A big factor will be how the infrastructure plan is written. With 79% of the registered EVs in the US Teslas, it will be hard to mandate that government funds don't also go to build new Tesla chargers. However, it may be possible to financially incentivize Tesla to open the network up to other vehicles as well.

 

[Cuelaw57]

Tesla will likely start opening its Supercharger network in Europe first. It is getting pressure from Germany to do so and Tesla already uses the CCS combo 2 plug connection for vehicles sold in Europe. Germany sees getting Tesla to open up its charging network as a way to increase the public charging infrastructure significantly without spending capital. It will be interesting to see the details of such a deal. It will also be interesting how such a deal is communicated because Tesla has no corporate media department and does not advertise. Perhaps it leaves the communications to whom ever it partners with.

 

[JT Rock]

Tesla will likely start opening its Supercharger network in Europe first.

You got it...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1455254164016189442

 

[B-mtrd]

I read somewhere that the pilot program in the Netherlands at 10 different locations.
I do wonder for how long and when will it be extended to other places.

 

[SeattleCat]

At least a pilot is proof of concept.
I assume they needed a converter or is Tesla putting different heads on?

 

[DeaneG]

I've read that Tesla's phone app will be used to initiate charging at non-Tesla vehicles.

 

[DeaneG]

At least a pilot is proof of concept.
I assume they needed a converter or is Tesla putting different heads on?

European Tesla cars use the CCS connector by mandate.

 

[B-mtrd]

Elon Musk mentioned that he would put adaptors here in the US but if they were stolen or damaged he would not fix or replace them.

 

[SeattleCat]

As long as we can buy real versions of them not dodgy after market “we are sorry you car caught fire” versions I would be happy to buy one and add it to the home charging cable I lug everywhere and have never used

 

[MMK]

Talk about additional revenue stream here -- bravo EM !

 

[BuzzyBud]

Numerous YouTube videos are now tracking the issues surrounding the Tesla pilot program in the Netherlands. I have attached just two videos which I found helpful. From these videos I have two primary take-aways.
1. When the program expands to the US, chances are we will need to purchase an adaptor for Tesla to CCS plug.
2. The Volvo location of the charge port is superb for using Tesla charge stations which have short cables. Nice! Once again, Volvo engineers were forward thinking!

 

[AurelTT]

Bonjour à tous,
L'un d'entre vous a-t-il déjà testé la charge sur des superchargeurs Tesla avec votre XC40 ?
Je devrais inaugurer ce vendredi de cette semaine. Je reviendrai vous dire si cela a fonctionné.
Les températures sont un peu basses et je ne sais pas si AndroidAutomotive comprendra qu'il faut préchauffer la batterie pour le recharger sur un Tesla Supercharger !

 

[santellavision]

I sure hope Tesla opens their SuperChargers to us here in the US. There are a LOT of them around Colorado.

FYI: I did have good luck charging at some Tesla 'Destination Chargers' with my Tesla-to-J1772 adapter. Worked great, usually faster than most Level 2 chargers and Free!

 

[brunoweihs]

Bonjour à tous,
L'un d'entre vous a-t-il déjà testé la charge sur des superchargeurs Tesla avec votre XC40 ?
Je devrais inaugurer ce vendredi de cette semaine. Je reviendrai vous dire si cela a fonctionné.
Les températures sont un peu basses et je ne sais pas si AndroidAutomotive comprendra qu'il faut préchauffer la batterie pour le recharger sur un Tesla Supercharger !

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Merci à toi. J’ai hâte de lire ton expérience.

 

[SeattleCat]

I sure hope Tesla opens their SuperChargers to us here in the US. There are a LOT of them around Colorado.

FYI: I did have good luck charging at some Tesla 'Destination Chargers' with my Tesla-to-J1772 adapter. Worked great, usually faster than most Level 2 chargers and Free!

Tesla destination chargers are free? Is this an always thing? Curious.

 

[santellavision]

Tesla destination chargers are free? Is this an always thing? Curious.

The couple I've used were free. There is no LCD screen or anything, I just plugged in the cable and it worked. Here's a pic of one of the Destination chargers in Estes Park, CO.
The other was at the famous Stanley Hotel there too.

 

[SeattleCat]

The couple I've used were free. There is no LCD screen or anything, I just plugged in the cable and it worked.

Nifty. Which brand of converter plug did you get?

 

[santellavision]

Lectron Tesla to J1772 Adapter

 

[SeattleCat]

Which amperage did you get?