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I thought I would start one as people get their cars delivered.

So far most of my driving has been pure city, all lights and stop signs, pretty low average speeds. I've been driving in one pedal mode.

My consumption and my battery depletion have seem mostly aligned with each other.

Right now my round trips are averaging in the in 30-35 KwH range, in mild but not super warm weather. If my math is correct, that means pure city driving has a range of around 215 to 250 miles. That seems pretty reasonable given the WLTP range of 208 but seems a bit low compared to the EPA of 258. But I'm also not adjusting my driving and having to deal with all the normal city driving issues that will reduce efficiency even with regen, notably sudden stops for less courteous drivers/bikes/people. Oh, it's also been hella windy in Philly as of late...so there's that too.
 

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It's the EPA that pegs the range at 208. I've only driven it on a few local trips so far and haven't recharged it yet, so I don't have a benchmark, but I did mark the mileage at the start of my first full charge. I'm retired and don't put much mileage on a car, so I'll probably be able to charge it once a week at home on Sunday when PG&E rates for EVs are lowest. I don't like the one pedal driving, though, and don't see a lot of advantage in it. The manual actually recommends not to use it on the highway. One question I've never seen answered is whether the car regenrates electricity when not using one pedal. There's no reason it shouldn't. The Prius was first, but many other hybrids do that and the pedal feel is normal. My Leaf (now sold), an EV, had two modes, normal and ECO which was a stronger regen braking feel, but both modes regenerated electricity. When I let off on the "gas" on the Volvo, it fells to me like it's regenerating. Can anyone provide a definitive answer?
 

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Right now my round trips are averaging in the in 30-35 KwH range, in mild but not super warm weather. If my math is correct, that means pure city driving has a range of around 215 to 250 miles.
Thank you for that information. It seems like the efficiency is good for city driving. Your calculations are correct for a 75kWh usable battery presuming your instrument panel units are in "kWh/100mi" and not "kWh/100km".

One question I've never seen answered is whether the car regenrates electricity when not using one pedal.
I would think it can regen with OPD off. Look at the instrument panel energy meter on the right side to find out for yourself. Pressing the accelerator should show energy being drawn from the battery. Stepping on the brake pedal should show regeneration back into the battery. The manual shows a picture of the meter: Regenerative braking | Drive modes | Starting and driving | XC40 Recharge Pure Electric 2021 | Volvo Support
 
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So Electrify America failed me. First chargers worked. Drive to another city and none of theirs worked with the car. EA didn't know what the problem was but now I'm stuck waiting for it to charge on an L2 charger enough that I can get on the road again. Ugh.
 

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I am average about 30 kWh/ 100 miles... in local driving. A range of about 250 miles.
On the highway, at 70 mph, i have an average of about 38 kWh....perhaps 190miles.
 

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Made it to my destination with zero percent. Yikes! At 9% it shut off cruise and limited throttle response and gave me a turtle icon. At 5% it severely hampered my acceleration. At 0% it said I had 5 miles of range which was really 3 miles on the area I was in. Holy crap, all because Electrify America didn't work with my car.
 

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Made it to my destination with zero percent. Yikes! At 9% it shut off cruise and limited throttle response and gave me a turtle icon. At 5% it severely hampered my acceleration. At 0% it said I had 5 miles of range which was really 3 miles on the area I was in. Holy crap, all because Electrify America didn't work with my car.
Good to know ! Just tried to charge at an Electrify America station, none of the chargers there worked. It looked like it was almost going to initiate charging but instead turned into a red light after a second or two
 

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Good to know ! Just tried to charge at an Electrify America station, none of the chargers there worked. It looked like it was almost going to initiate charging but instead turned into a red light after a second or two
Hmmm I had an issue with a Blink fast charger but not their L2 charger. Remote charge starting was busted on the unit and my RFID card didn't work or so I thought. Now I am wondering if something is wonky with the fast charging. On the plus side the blink folks were fantastic, a specialist called me back and was very enthusiastic about resolving the issue. They're sending me a new card and they gave a me a direct number to call when I am ready to test the charger again.
 

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Hmmm I had an issue with a Blink fast charger but not their L2 charger. Remote charge starting was busted on the unit and my RFID card didn't work or so I thought. Now I am wondering if something is wonky with the fast charging. On the plus side the blink folks were fantastic, a specialist called me back and was very enthusiastic about resolving the issue. They're sending me a new card and they gave a me a direct number to call when I am ready to test the charger again.
The charger that failed for me also failed for a Leaf later on. The problem was with the station, not the car.
 

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I think there maybe some compatability issues with the Recharge and some of the particular models of charging modules used in EA and Blink. I did fast charge at Chargepoint just fine, Haven't tried Blink yet but I'll try to find somewhere to try it and report back
 

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I've been using Blink chargers for 10 years. The L2 ones have always worked perfectly. I have a home Blink EVSE and it charges the Volvo just fine. It's been great. But the Blink ChaDemo L3 chargers were never reliable with my Leaf. I learned not to ever count on them. I have no experience with the CCS ones. When I took delivery of the Volvo it was 80% charged up. I charged it fully that first night and I still haven't had to charge it again, two weeks later. It has almost 50% capacity. I may charge it tomorrow since Sundays are the lowest electrical rate under the PG&E EV rate. I'd like to get an idea how long it would take,if I needed to charge out on the road.
 

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Good to know ! Just tried to charge at an Electrify America station, none of the chargers there worked. It looked like it was almost going to initiate charging but instead turned into a red light after a second or two
Yep I tried one locally, same result. This is a major issue for me given that EA is essentially the only game for 150KW charging along I76 and I80 in PA. Maybe more annoying is I can see Polestar 2s charging in plug share.

I've been using Blink chargers for 10 years. The L2 ones have always worked perfectly. I have a home Blink EVSE and it charges the Volvo just fine. It's been great. But the Blink ChaDemo L3 chargers were never reliable with my Leaf.
It turned out that it was an issue with my RFID charge card. It's my "home charger" and now I essentially plugin when I am going to get coffee from Wawa and come back with 7%-10% added.

It's worth noting, at least with the current software version, a 150KW charger is mostly helpful from 0%-40%, from 40%-75% you'll still see some benefit from chargers greater than 50KW (especially 40%-60%.)
 

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It's the EPA that pegs the range at 208. I've only driven it on a few local trips so far and haven't recharged it yet, so I don't have a benchmark, but I did mark the mileage at the start of my first full charge. I'm retired and don't put much mileage on a car, so I'll probably be able to charge it once a week at home on Sunday when PG&E rates for EVs are lowest. I don't like the one pedal driving, though, and don't see a lot of advantage in it. The manual actually recommends not to use it on the highway. One question I've never seen answered is whether the car regenrates electricity when not using one pedal. There's no reason it shouldn't. The Prius was first, but many other hybrids do that and the pedal feel is normal. My Leaf (now sold), an EV, had two modes, normal and ECO which was a stronger regen braking feel, but both modes regenerated electricity. When I let off on the "gas" on the Volvo, it fells to me like it's regenerating. Can anyone provide a definitive answer?
Yes, regen works when not using "one pedal mode". The only difference is use of the brake pedal. The initial travel of the brake pedal engages regen to slow the car down. The actual brakes are only called upon if the driver calls for more immediate stopping force than regen can provide.
 

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Good to know ! Just tried to charge at an Electrify America station, none of the chargers there worked. It looked like it was almost going to initiate charging but instead turned into a red light after a second or two
There are compatibility issues with certain Electrify America charging stations using chargers made by Signet. There are both hardware changes coming for the Signet chargers and Software for the Volvo XC40 P8 to improve compatibility. Should be ready by mid-June this year.
 

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There are compatibility issues with certain Electrify America charging stations using chargers made by Signet. There are both hardware changes coming for the Signet chargers and Software for the Volvo XC40 P8 to improve compatibility. Should be ready by mid-June this year.
Well this is certainly better than it not getting fixed. I am still bummed because in Western PA they have these chargers at Sheetz, which is kind of the dream, hook up your EV for a charge, hit the beverage cave, maybe get some fries, 25 minutes later you're back on the road with like 40% state to charge added. :p

Thanks for chiming in Chris!
 

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Good news. According to the video:


The P8 now Reaches its theoretical max charge rate of 150. This is good news as it was previously struggling to get close.
 

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Well this is certainly better than it not getting fixed. I am still bummed because in Western PA they have these chargers at Sheetz, which is kind of the dream, hook up your EV for a charge, hit the beverage cave, maybe get some fries, 25 minutes later you're back on the road with like 40% state to charge added. :p

Thanks for chiming in Chris!
To be clear, Signet chargers are present at about 25% of Electrify America locations, so it is not a given that any location will not work. Worth a try. Just don't wait until you are at 10% charge level in case you need to travel to another charging site.
 

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I have access to a free charger at one work site and an outdoor 120V outlet at another. Was cold last night and lost 8% of battery charge. Find I'm in the 60% range by the end of the day, and only running the AC at lowest fan setting and 68 degrees F. I changed my max % to 90 so that I don't need to charge every time I'm at a worksite. Anyone else?
 

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To be clear, Signet chargers are present at about 25% of Electrify America locations, so it is not a given that any location will not work. Worth a try. Just don't wait until you are at 10% charge level in case you need to travel to another charging site.
Is there any sense for where these signet chargers would be deployed? IE, is EA still deploying them on a regular basis so essentially you never know when you'll run into one? Or were they deployed during a certain time frames?
 

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I have access to a free charger at one work site and an outdoor 120V outlet at another. Was cold last night and lost 8% of battery charge. Find I'm in the 60% range by the end of the day, and only running the AC at lowest fan setting and 68 degrees F. I changed my max % to 90 so that I don't need to charge every time I'm at a worksite. Anyone else?
I have a 33 mile commute. In colder weather (30-50 degrees), each one way commute took me from 90 to 68%. That's with seat heaters on, heated steering wheel on, temp at 72F and cruise set at 75mph. 90% highway drive. Once the weather hit 70F, my one way commute took me from 90% to 76%. Same average speeds, but much less heater draw.

110v will keep a cold battery at it's current level and in warm ambient temps it will charge it but very slooooowly. Really not practical. Also make sure your charging current is set to the max of 48 amps to take full advantage of any level 2 charger you connect to.
 
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