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I suspect the lack of USB connectivity is a security feature to avoid viruses getting into the system. It's bad enough to get a virus on your PC, but imagine how catastophic/deadly it could be if one got into the car's operating system, especially since this thing is basically a giant PC on wheels?
 

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I suspect the lack of USB connectivity is a security feature to avoid viruses getting into the system.
Possible, but I still think it more likely that Volvo simply hasn't released USB device drivers yet (which will be required for promised Apple CarPlay support, among other things). At this point, the USB ports are just dumb power outlets - no USB functions at all.
...but imagine how catastophic/deadly it could be if one got into the car's operating system, especially since this thing is basically a giant PC on wheels?
The car has multiple operating systems, isolated from each other. A USB-based attack would likely be limited to the Android Automotive OS platform - eg, your Infotainment system/apps and climate control. Everything that affects actual vehicle control or Dashboard display is run in a separate secure operating system, nothing to do with Google or Android.

Still, I'm sure Volvo is being extra paranoid about stuff like this - making sure there are no leaks or bugs in the USB drivers before releasing them.
 

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I connected my Android phone to the left USB port (the one with circle around it) and the car recognized my phone and was looking to transfer files but there is not yet software to do this. The message was in the drop down you pull down from the top of the screen. Maybe future software will provide fuller function.
 

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The car has multiple operating systems, isolated from each other. A USB-based attack would likely be limited to the Android Automotive OS platform - eg, your Infotainment system/apps and climate control. Everything that affects actual vehicle control or Dashboard display is run in a separate secure operating system, nothing to do with Google or Android.
Emphasis mine. Do you have a source for the statement about isolation or how it is done. For years UCSD has been breaking cars via their infotainment systems. GM Took 5 Years to Fix a Full-Takeover Hack in Millions of OnStar Cars

The fundamental bus used in cars (CANBUS) has no security or encryption on it (or at least the last time I checked) and all devices are treated as equal. Since the infotainment system is connected to the car to get car data, and since it already controls car systems like regenerative braking, one can assume that it can be hacked to take control of the car.
 

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Since the infotainment system is connected to the car to get car data, and since it already controls car systems like regenerative braking, one can assume that it can be hacked to take control of the car.
Yes. The Android OS can get/set a few limited properties that are read by the real-time OS. So there's always some risk with the communication between them. I think the fact that AAOS is open-source - and has a well-known update/patch capability - will help with finding/fixing security bugs.
 

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Update on the YouTube Music app: My goal was to upload my entire MP3 collection to my YouTube Music account, then browse & play my own music in my car - streamed over the internet using the YouTube Music app, with no subscription or fee.
  1. Successfully uploaded my entire MP3 collection to my YouTube Music Library via PC web browser - just over 10,000 songs, 600+ artists, etc. Even WMA files worked for me (other people reported they didn't work for them). Not all album art came over properly, but I think this is because many of my files from the distant past (Microsoft Zune era!) lack proper image tags.
  2. I can open YouTube Music app on my XC40 console, and browse/play this library. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, it appears that Android Automative OS (as well as the previous Android Auto phone apps) deliberately limits all media apps (not just YouTube) to max 100 items in any browse list. That makes browsing my library pretty useless! On the touchscreen I can scroll thru the first 100 Artists, 100 Albums, or 100 Songs - but no further!
  3. Ok, so scrolling thru > 100 items on car touchscreen is apparently inherently dangerous & therefore prohibited. So they must have a Search feature instead, right? Little magnifying glass icon? Um, no...
  4. So the only real way to use your library in the car is to use Voice Commands. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, you have to be very specific and alway tell Google that you want to play from YouTube Music (and not from TuneIn, Spotify, or whatever else it randomly thinks is your "default" music player app). When I say "Hey Google, play Steely Dan" it reponds "Sorry, you can't request Artists on TuneIn". So I have to say "Hey Google, play Steely Dan on YouTube Music" then it works. Kind of.
  5. UNFORTUNATELY if YouTube Music has the artist/album/song you requested already in it's for-pay subscription library - then that's the version it will attempt to play. And if you aren't paying them for a subscription, then it will give you an error message. Buf you ask for something totally unique to your personal YouTube Music library (eg, a recording of a band the younger me was in) then it works fine. I haven't figured out a way to tell Google voice assistant to play the requested music ONLY from my personal YouTube Music upload library. If anyone finds that magic phrase, please let me know!
Bottom line: mostly useless at this point. Think I will listen to the radio for now.
 

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It just occurred to me this could be the real reason we don't yet have a way to browse & play media from USB storage devices. Browsing is simply prohibited for more than 100 items at a time in a car!

A simple, dumb "USB storage media browser" app would pretty much be useless by definition (well, unless you have fewer than 100 artists, albums, or songs). To actually make a usable USB media player, you'd need some way for Google to index & search the contents so you can use voice commands. Which means the media has to be on the web/cloud somewhere. Now I wonder if we'll ever see such an app.
 

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I've been using Poweramp on my phone successfully, playing in the car using bluetooth. My songs are divided into playlists so I'm getting what I want in the order I want. It has lots of shuffle options, but I dislike shuffle because it seems that get my less favorites more often than my favorites and some songs get skipped completely. I still don't like having to play from my phone, but the bluetooth/GA combo does work pretty well. So do the buttons on the steering wheel. I can control volume, skip a song or go back to the previous one, etc. I agree that the white circled USB port will have to be activated eventually as input for music.
 

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I've been using Poweramp on my phone successfully, playing in the car using bluetooth.
I've also been using my iPhone as a bluetooth audio player. Not as crazy as it seems, but it's pretty hilarious hearing me yell "HEY SIRI - play Steely Dan" inside my otherwise all-Google cockpit :)
 

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It happily lets you scroll through over a thousand in the media browser. . .

If anyone works out the right things to say …
And yeah shouting to Siri so Siri can send to google is funny.
 

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Bottom line: mostly useless at this point. Think I will listen to the radio for now.
I agree. The shuffle button on the screen doesn't seem to do anything, and the playlist always starts with the first track (in my case, reverse alphabetical order) so can get a bit boring!
 

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So if my playlist has more than 100 items will it show? I have a playlist with 600 songs and the playlist will nto even show int he car. I can show it on YT Music on my phone. I have Poweramp, but even with Automagic and BT Connect set to max volume the darn Pixel 3a XL always lowers the volume on connect and I have to fiddle with phone. Volvo, Please don't put this OS in a mainstream model until is fully baked!
 

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My P8 was delivered to me two days ago and already I'm severely disappointed in the infotainment system. I think we need a new thread just for the new infotainment system. It's clearly not ready for prime time.

I'll start with this issue. All I want to do is listen to my mp3s and wma music files. I used a thumb drive in the USB port in my last car but despite reviews and the Volvo salesman assuring me it is possible to do that in the Volvo, it turns out it is not. After much research and querying different sources I called Volvo Consumer Support who told me at first that it was possible, but then later sent me this official email:

Thank you for contacting Volvo Car USA!

We have looked into your request for information on playing music via the USB port in your vehicle. Unfortunately at this time vehicle cannot play music via the USB port, the only ways to play music from an outside source is from a blue tooth connected phone.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
Med vänliga hälsningar!

Yours Sincerely,
Briana
Volvo Consumer Relations Center
800.638.6586

I don't have my music files on my phone and don't always have my phone with me in the car. It's not even clear if it can play music from another bluetooth device like an iPod or mp3 player. The only streaming service I use (and don't even like all that much) is Pandora. I tried to install that, but the Play Store doesn't have it. This is a huge issue for me. any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
I mean, it's 4 years of free data for the new Recharges, use the streaming apps and create playlists of what your mp3s were.

Also, why would you not bring your phone, just curious ?

Can easily store mp3s on your phone or even plug USB drive into phone and play via Bluetooth.

You are basically complaining about 2004 audio functionality being extinct. The world has moved on to streaming, be it TV, movies or music.

You also might have more success when apple car play and Android auto get implemented, but Android automotive probably suits 95% of users audio needs.
 
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