Hi all- I’m shopping for a new XC40 and need advice please on how much better the Harmon Kardon stereo is vs the stock stereo. I ask because I’ve found a car that has everything I want except the HK. I’m not a super finicky audiophile, but I have Sirius or the fm radio on pretty much 100% of the time while I’m driving and would hate to have it sound like crap. Thanks for your help!
Harmon Kardon - yes or no?
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I listened to both .... the base system is horrible so you will have to get the HK. But even that system is not all that great. The best one is the Bowers & Wilkins but its only offered in the XC60 and 90.
The HK system is ok but IMO its overpriced for what it offers. A little tinkering can get it close to where you want sound wise but then the volume falls a bit short.
The HK system is ok but IMO its overpriced for what it offers. A little tinkering can get it close to where you want sound wise but then the volume falls a bit short.
Many thanks. I did listen to the B&W in the XC60. That gem will certainly spoil one from ever liking any lesser system!
Many thanks. Seems like (or should I say sounds like) I am going to have to continue my search until I find an available car with not just the other features/packages I want but also the HK!
Unfortunately the XC40 is too new for aftermarket parts in audio selection, but given that the HK is run on a 600 watt system, it should be fairly easy to upgrade a couple of the speakers cheaply, later on.
When I test drove it I moved the fader around and the back speakers faintly came to life only when the setting was rear biased on 8 or 9. When the speaker fader was completely set on the back, it was a little strange, as though the sound was muffled. The base is clearly lagging and the front speakers seem to be tuned more for treble. I just couldn't get a good balance between the front and back speakers.
When I test drove it I moved the fader around and the back speakers faintly came to life only when the setting was rear biased on 8 or 9. When the speaker fader was completely set on the back, it was a little strange, as though the sound was muffled. The base is clearly lagging and the front speakers seem to be tuned more for treble. I just couldn't get a good balance between the front and back speakers.
I agree about the B & W. I think the HK is garbage.
I test drove both the T4 and the T5 and this time I really played with the equalizer/fader/treble and bass on the HK system. I managed to get it to its optimum sound levels that I prefer and it really wasn't as bad as the first time I listened to it. It did come in short though when i drove with the windows down.
But I will say this, the HK system in the XC40 blows away the HK system in the Alfa Romeo Stelvio. If you want to feel ripped off go upgrade the Stelvio sound system. The wife has a leased Stelvio and she thinks its fine but I hate it for an $800 upgrade that is worse than a base system in a Kia.
But I will say this, the HK system in the XC40 blows away the HK system in the Alfa Romeo Stelvio. If you want to feel ripped off go upgrade the Stelvio sound system. The wife has a leased Stelvio and she thinks its fine but I hate it for an $800 upgrade that is worse than a base system in a Kia.
I agree the HK system is a must if you want your music to sound good (although Sirius never does.. poor bandwidth leads to high compression and horrible sound). Especially because there aren’t speakers in the doors and everything comes from right in front of you, even the HK system feels a little empty in the XC40 until you get used to it. I understand the HK system has an extra subwoofer in addition to the “air” subwoofer in the dash and I think that helps a lot.
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Poor me. I have the base system in my XC40 and although I thought I was an audiofile, I guess not because I happen to like the way it performs. I agree with the previous comment that Sirius has such low bandwidth and high compression and should not be used as a point of reference.
sooner or later aftermarket stuff wil become available and you will be poking us with abandonment on spending too much on the HK upgrade.
The HK is a bit of a disappointment even after playing around with the settings, but after having driven a loaner XC60 with a regular radio, it was clear that doing the $800 upgrade was the right decision.
Plugging into Apple play produces the best sound quality. The Bluetooth was better in my Toyota Corolla.
Plugging into Apple play produces the best sound quality. The Bluetooth was better in my Toyota Corolla.
I find it amazing how some low end cars have a better sound system than upgraded sound system on a luxury car. it just gives me a feeling of being ripped off.
I will say this though, when i listened to the HK system on the XC40 vs the XC60, the bigger brother was hands down horrible. If you compare the systems in both cars the sound in the XC60 is sooooo muffled.
I will say this though, when i listened to the HK system on the XC40 vs the XC60, the bigger brother was hands down horrible. If you compare the systems in both cars the sound in the XC60 is sooooo muffled.
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I don’t know what people are listening to but the Harmon Kardon is very good. Especially when listening to music from phone or streaming services. Sirius is pretty good. I don’t know how much more you’d realistically want out of it. You’re in a car, not your home.
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I have 2021 xc40 t5 R-Design it has the HK upgrade. I am a vet audiophile and did car audio/alarms for about 7 years. I can say i am impressed with the HK system esp the DSP. If you are listening to fm or sat the sound quality will be limited. However, stream in HQ (spotify paid max quality toggled) Tidal etc or better USB FLAC or similar -it sounds great! The only thing i dislike is the limiter built into the system which kicks in very noticeably at high volumes or over driven input
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Lol i have to be honest with you, sat radio sounds like garbage to begin with! You would be blown away with a properly working, not bugged or glitched sensus system, - Harmon Kardon sound playing a Flac file via usb stick or spotify set to highest quality. I installed car audio and alarms for 5 years and have nearly 30 years exp all over the music industry. When i got my r-design t5 xc40 2021 i was impressed. But i read many pos and neg reviews. Then i started having issues with the sound. The back sub went out, or i had almost no volume all around. Or there's the time everything was coming through center channel. Usually this went away after a few restarts but the back subwoofer only playing at a fraction of the volume will not go away. I know for fact that this can come right out of the factory like that. Cust or tech hears bass from front sub and think nothing of it. Meanwhile they have a substandard malfunctioning system that sounds like ....well... ****. No wonder it gets mixed reviews - its broken lol. Its been 2 weeks and i still cant get it back, im going to have to try to get service to fix.
..but idk...
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Would be interrested if tech comes with any solution. Your description seems pretty simmilar to my experience, the sound experience seem not consistent. Ie, I hear no subwoofer most of the times. It is funny because if you stop the car the bass starts to play but then with even slow speed the bass goes away. I was hoping this has something to do with automatic volume adjustment but SW upgrade did not resolve it. The volume also seems quite low, but that I guess is feature of the HK sound system.
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The bass can be heard when the car stops but not while moving even at slow speeds makes me think there's an issue with your noise cancelation.
IMO.... the HK is slightly a tad better than the stock unit.... but you certainly won't "love" it. So for an $800 upgrade....it's "meh"....but since I do keep my car for several years, I figured its more bearable with the upgrade.
Hands down.....should there be aftermarket systems, that would be the way to go.....however.....like what others have mentioned here, the P8 is too new -- EV in general is still an intimidation for many on wiring work. So for now, "best bet" is the upgraded version for a $60k car. I'm sure in a few more years, there will be better systems out there
Hands down.....should there be aftermarket systems, that would be the way to go.....however.....like what others have mentioned here, the P8 is too new -- EV in general is still an intimidation for many on wiring work. So for now, "best bet" is the upgraded version for a $60k car. I'm sure in a few more years, there will be better systems out there
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