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2023 Toyota bZ4X vs XC40 Recharge

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I ordered a XC40 Recharge last October and should be receiving the car within the next three to four months. I ordered the Ultimate with a couple of accessories.

I currently own a 2023 Toyota bZ4X LE which equates to a FWD single motor version. The bZ is a not a small crossover. The highway range has been a disappointment since I started driving it in Dec 2022. I live in Canada where the temperatures hover around 0 Celsius. I have two L2 chargers and charge the bZ in a heated garage (+15C); one is off a 30A breaker, the other off a 50A breaker.

Highway range at 105 km/h "groundspeed" (the speedometer is not accurate) renders a meagre 200 km of range at OAT of +3C. The technology available on the bZ is Prius-like and outdated or non-existant. I use the range "guess-o-meter" to assist me with when I should consider returning home for a recharge.

I ordered the XC40 Recharge for the technology upgrade, battery pre-conditioning when approaching a DCFC and for a better more technologically advanced EV than the Toyota bZ4X. However, after lurking on the website, I am quickly starting to think that the bZ might not be all that "cheap" or "unreliable".
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I ordered a XC40 Recharge last October and should be receiving the car within the next three to four months. I ordered the Ultimate with a couple of accessories.

I currently own a 2023 Toyota bZ4X LE which equates to a FWD single motor version. The bZ is a not a small crossover. The highway range has been a disappointment since I started driving it in Dec 2022. I live in Canada where the temperatures hover around 0 Celsius. I have two L2 chargers and charge the bZ in a heated garage (+15C); one is off a 30A breaker, the other off a 50A breaker.

Highway range at 105 km/h "groundspeed" (the speedometer is not accurate) renders a meagre 200 km of range at OAT of +3C. The technology available on the bZ is Prius-like and outdated or non-existant. I use the range "guess-o-meter" to assist me with when I should consider returning home for a recharge.

I ordered the XC40 Recharge for the technology upgrade, battery pre-conditioning when approaching a DCFC and for a better more technologically advanced EV than the Toyota bZ4X. However, after lurking on the website, I am quickly starting to think that the bZ might not be all that "cheap" or "unreliable".
Our C40/XC40 wheels don't come off. Also we only have to wait roughly around 35-40 minutes to charge from 10 to 80% with a 150kW charger instead of an hour to infinity.
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The wheel issue is now history so that is not a concern for me. ;)

Yes, the bZ4X has a 6.6-kW AC onboard charger which is, I believe, the same as your much more expensive 2019 I-Pace. I also ordered an I-Pace HSE last summer...still waiting on that. The XC40 has a 11-kW AC onboard charger which is "nicer". The real trick here will be pre-conditioning the traction battery while using the Google Maps DCFC feature which I believe requires one to preset the minimum charging battery capacity to 90%.
Keep the Toyota. Preorder the EX90 or Polestar 3 instead.
I don't see what the EX90 will have more over the XC40 other than a bigger battery, more weight, bigger tires, more drag and probably lower range than what is advertised by Volvo. They ALL lie profusely. The front end of the EX90 is still going to be the equivalent of a flat sheet of plywood 2 feet X 4 feet. The energy formula or drap formula equals the square of the speed. Maybe they don't have highways in Sweeden or China. And BTW, the EX90 will probably be built in China just like the Polestar 2/3 and unfortunately, I am still trying to stay away from Chinese made cars as much as I can.
I don't see what the EX90 will have more over the XC40 other than a bigger battery, more weight, bigger tires, more drag and probably lower range than what is advertised by Volvo. They ALL lie profusely. The front end of the EX90 is still going to be the equivalent of a flat sheet of plywood 2 feet X 4 feet. The energy formula or drap formula equals the square of the speed. Maybe they don't have highways in Sweeden or China. And BTW, the EX90 will probably be built in China just like the Polestar 2/3 and unfortunately, I am still trying to stay away from Chinese made cars as much as I can.
EX90 and Polestar 3 for sale in North America wil be built in their South Carolina plant.

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The Toyota is just horrible, IMO. Slow, everything about it is SLOW. hard pass.
The Toyota is NOT a horrible BEV. It's a solid, low tech, ultra conservative BEV that is going to last and outlive many others. It simply lacks amenities, technology and a little bit of power as compared to the Polestar 2 or XC40.
The Toyota is NOT a horrible BEV. It's a solid, low tech, ultra conservative BEV that is going to last and outlive many others. It simply lacks amenities, technology and a little bit of power as compared to the Polestar 2 or XC40.
Will it, though? How do we know? An example is when Tesla upgraded battery packs in the model S to the 400mi rated pack...those are now dying, while the standard packs are fine.
The Toyota is NOT a horrible BEV. It's a solid, low tech, ultra conservative BEV that is going to last and outlive many others. It simply lacks amenities, technology and a little bit of power as compared to the Polestar 2 or XC40.
Ok then:
Hello BruinToo, that‘s probably the most accurate review I have yet to view on YouTube about the bZ4X. Thanks for posting that link. The driving impression around 7:00 minute mark says it all. These guys are right on the mark. Toyota did not want to make an BEV. Unfortunately, the bZ4X is still not a horrible BEV. I am a proponent of PHEV and that product would have been a more gradual and reasonable approach to reducing the carbon footprint than going full BEV and I live in the Canadian province with the lowest electricity cost in the World! Driving a BEV in Quebec costs 10 times less than driving the same kms on petrol. Canada produces less carbon in one year than China does in one day.
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